In the garage the wheels turn with little effort. Data I compiled when I was going the other way woth my 64 Chevelle. There is probably a page somewhere that shows what models have what ratios over the years. I have seen very few steering boxes ripped from the frame. Runs well means at an idle, still having carb issues and the fuel gauge has been put on the back burner.
As for the 3 bolt vs 4 bolt thing. I'd recommend this mod to almost anyone. The pump will have to changed to a later-model O-ring style or conversion hoses need to be used Nope, I did the hydroboost so I already had changed over to a 1982 box. In places where it seems to get complaints is off road I haven't seen that issue but I don't rock crawl. It certainly has changed the feel of the truck. I spose technically 3 is weaker than 4, but the majority of the people on here aren't going to notice that little bit because they aren't wheeling that hard.
. The original box is twice as many turns lock to lock as the s 10 mod. There is a fairly involved process to do this that I'm guessing most people don't follow. I'm doing my wreckyard hunting. Originally posted by ollies69: I have a 1993 S10 Frame and I am looking to convert to manual steering. Right now I'm working on installing a 78 s-10 box in a 73 Commando using a steering shaft out of a 1981 Scrambler to make it all fit.
Has anyone else run into this issue? That is providing the early box pitman arm is the same style as a late model one with a hole at the end instead of a ball socket. I wonder of some of the complaints with the stock steering on-road isn't that it's got too much assist, when you're trying to go straight down the road. I was under the impression that the 3bolt cover boxes were just for 83-84 s10s and that 85 - 93 manual s10s had 4 bolt covers. I do have the J20 box and I may try to use this if I end up not liking the S10 box. There are multiple reasons why this can happen but changing from cutting lock to lock turns in half will never in itself cause a loose condition unless like you say some mitigating issues were overlooked. I can turn it lock to lock with one finger.
Who's done the S10 Steering box swap and what did you think? I think reducing the angle of the drag link made a big difference. There's always ebay and your local junkyard. Of course its possible as shown to change both at the same time. The late model 4 bolt top cover boxes are direct bolt in for late model vehicles. My steering is quick, too quick for me, and takes very little effort on or off-road.
Ought to be able to bolt on a box and pump pretty easily and pretty inexpensively too. Posts: 4921 Joined: Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:00 pm Location: Mooresville Indiana Grappler '82-5. I won't fix a completely worn out steering system. I'm asking because i just picked up a quick ratio box from a camaro and i cant find any info online. You need good parts regarldless of which box you prefer. So, without a manual pitman arm, it looks like a 4 bolt cover is needed. This the feedback I'm looking for.
But don't think it will fix everything. It does have a smaller piston and therefore less assisting force for turning the spindle and that could, in effect, be more road feel in the steering wheel. I haven't put many miles on it yet so I'm not sure if I care for it. It's definitely different and not what I'm used to. My '80 Cherokee had the S10 box on it when I bought it and also has hydroboost brakes.
I ran mine for a year or two with no problems. I know this isnt technically traditional but my apache came with an 81 camaro clip. If your steering has gotten sloppy they may need replacement. And since I was switching over to hydroboost I upgraded the rest of the system to the new o-ring style hoses and pump. Probably due to the length and large turning circle. The difference is like driving a boat compaired to a jet ski. It sounds like you have other issues with the pump or the new box.